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About Tom Foster

Tom Foster spends most of his time talking with managers and business owners. The conversations are about business lives and personal lives, goals, objectives and measuring performance. In short, transforming groups of people into teams working together. Sometimes we make great strides understanding this management stuff, other times it’s measured in very short inches. But in all of this conversation, there are things that we learn. This blog is that part of the conversation I can share. Often, the names are changed to protect the guilty, but this is real life inside of real companies.

Tell Me About the Plan

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
Here we are again. I thought this was the best candidate, but, now only three weeks into the job, I might have made a mistake. It turns out, I misinterpreted things that were discussed in the interview.

Response:
Why do interviewers constantly misinterpret candidate responses? Simple reason. Interviewers misinterpret because they are asking questions that require interpretation. Any question that requires the response to be interpreted is a poor question. Worse yet, now the interviewer has to do something with that interpretation.

“Tell me, how important was planning in your last company?”

Terrible question. Any response to this question requires the interviewer to make an interpretation, an assumption or a leap of faith. Do we depend on the person to be telling the truth, or do we take it with a grain of salt? None of this is helpful.

Here is a better set of questions.

  • Tell me about a time when it was important for you to create a plan for a project you were working on?
  • What was the project?
  • What was the purpose of the project?
  • How long was the project?
  • Tell me about the plan?

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Arguing With Opinion

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
I thought I had a pretty good strategy going into the interview with the candidate. But I am only one of five people on our interview team. It seems the other four weren’t prepared and came out of their interviews with completely different observations. One said the candidate reminded him of his college drinking buddy. Another was impressed with the candidate’s technical background, from the resume. I think this is a bad decision, but now I have to argue with the opinions of the rest of the interview team.

Response:
This is not unusual. Most interview teams are loosely banded together without any coherent approach. The good news, since you have an approach, you have the power of influence on the behavior of the rest of the team.

The trick is to start early. Get the interview team together to review the role description way before the job posting. The team can be very helpful crafting interview questions together, based on the role description. If you remember, my bias is 60 written prepared questions. If you have five people on your interview team, that’s barely more than 10 questions each, piece of cake.

The next step is a decision matrix with the decision criteria listed across the top and each candidate down the left side. Each member of the interview team should prepare the matrix after their candidate interviews and bring it to the debrief meeting. Now, the conversation is totally changed. It’s no longer opinion, but a true discussion of the facts uncovered during the interviews.
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An Impeccable Interview

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
We are three weeks into a new hire that showed all the promise of a superstar. This new hire was an impeccable interviewer. He had done research on our website, knew all about our company. He had done significant research on our industry, was familiar with specific challenges our company faces. He established immediate rapport with every person on the interview team. He looked wonderful. But here we are, three weeks later and I can already tell, this guy doesn’t have a clue. Everything in his department, which was relatively stable, has started to go haywire.

Response:
If you had interviewed me for the role, I guarantee that you would have hired me as well. Candidates are coached to do exactly what you described. I would have scoured your website, specifically your About Us page, so I would be able to identify all the players in your company by name. I would have spent an hour or two on industry websites to figure out what your challenges are. I would have concocted a couple of brilliant stories (with enough verifiable truth) to WOW an interview team.

Here’s the bad news. I have never worked in your industry, have never done what you need done, never worked with, much less managed a staff like yours. Three weeks into the role, you would notice me failing. PREDICTABLY FAILING.

Predictably failing, if you had asked the right questions. Your entire interview team was derailed from the facts of my experience. They were hi-jacked by my specific knowledge about your teammates. The only qualifications demonstrated were those of a researcher.
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Not Interested in Opinion

After observing a ton of hiring interviews, I have created a list of the top things that go wrong in the conversation. Here is a big one:

The interviewer fails to find out important information about the candidate’s experience, skills and behaviors relative to the job profile.

Interesting, since this is the primary purpose of the interview, what causes this failure? Most often, time and again, the interviewer is not prepared to ask the right questions and pursue the details of the candidate’s experience. Manager’s think they can wing it.

“Just give me the guy’s resume. I’ll spend a few minutes with him and tell you what I think.”

Quite frankly, I am not interested in the opinion of the interviewer. I am interested in how much hard information is collected, that has a direct bearing on the person’s probability for success in the role we are trying to fill.
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It’s Not What The Candidate Has Done

“Let me see your list of questions,” I asked. I could tell by the quick look that Claire didn’t have a list.

“I don’t have them written, just in my head, but I could probably write the questions down for you, if that would help,” she responded.

“How many questions do you have in your head?”

“Well, none really prepared, I have the resume, so I just ask questions from that.”

It’s not Claire’s fault. No company ever trained her to conduct a job interview. No company ever trained her to create interview questions that reveal valuable information to make a hiring decision. Effective hiring interviews are a critical management skill for the successful manager.

Many managers conduct the hiring interview solely from the candidate’s resume in their hand. Change this one thing to make your interviews better. Craft your interview questions from the role description rather than the person’s resume. Every question should have a specific purpose to give you data about the candidate relative to the role you want them to play in your company. It’s not what the candidate has done (though it may be fascinating), but what the candidate has done related to the role.
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First 30 Seconds of the Interview

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
I am the HR Director for a large company. Part of my role, is assisting managers in the hiring process. Very frustrating. Most times, these guys will make a hiring decision in the first 30 seconds of the interview. Our revolving door can barely keep track of the spin-outs. How can I get my managers to slow down, to make a decision only after they have asked some better questions?

Response:

Your description is typical of most hiring decisions that I see.

“There is a candidate down the hall interviewing for the supervisor’s decision. Everyone else likes him. Can you go see if you like him, too?”

So, here we are, 30 seconds into the interview and the candidate reminds me of my best drinking buddy from college. I had a half dozen questions that I scribbled on a yellow pad, but couldn’t find the pad before the interview started. I can always tell the candidate about this “great place to work.” If he looks interested, maybe he will take the job.

Can we stop our initial reactions (first impressions) in the interview? NO!!

We are people and cannot stop those first impressions. But first impressions are not sufficient to make a sound hiring decision. The reason most managers rely on those first impressions is that they are totally unprepared to enter the interview room. Most have only a sketchy intuitive understanding of the role and rarely more than six or seven prepared questions.

As an HR professional, part of your role, is to insist on a discipline in the hiring process. The first discipline is the creation of a coherent role description, where the tasks and activities are organized into 5-8 Key Result Areas. The second discipline is the preparation of ten questions for each Key Result Area. Now the Hiring Manager is ready, with 50-80 written prepared questions. For every written question, it is likely the manager will ask two drill-down questions, meaning, during the course of the interview, there will be 150-240 questions asked.

Now, we can have all the first impressions we want, but that first impression will be balanced by 150 pieces of data, specifically related to the role. The quality of your hiring decisions will rise dramatically.
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Hiring Talent – New Online Program

Pre-registration is now open for our new program – Hiring Talent.

Most of my conversations the past few weeks have been about recruiting. Business volume is picking up (slowly). There is movement in the candidate pool. Most companies are totally unprepared to regenerate their hiring process.

Purpose of this program – to train managers and HR specialists in the discipline of conducting more effective interviews in the context of a managed recruiting process.

How long is the program? This program will take eight weeks.

How do people participate in the program? This is an online program conducted by Tom Foster. Participants will be responsible for online assignments and participating in online facilitated discussion groups with other participants. This online platform is highly interactive. Participants will be interacting with Tom Foster and other participants as they work through this program. Pre-register Now.

Who should participate? This program is designed for Stratum III and Stratum IV managers and HR managers who play active roles in the recruiting process for their organizations.

What is the cost? The program investment is $699 per participant.

When is the program scheduled? Registration is now open. The program will start following the registration period, in late May or early June.

How much time is required to participate in this program? Participants should reserve approximately 2 hours per week. This program is designed so participants can complete their assignments on their own schedule anytime during each week’s assignment period.

Pre-register Now.

Week One
Orientation

Week Two
What we are up against
Specific challenges in the process
Problems in the process
Defining the overall process
Introduction to the Role Description
Organizing the Role Description
Defining Tasks
Defining Goals
Identifying Time Span
Assignment – Create a specific role description

Week Three
Publish and critique role descriptions

Week Four
Creating effective interview questions
General characteristics of effective questions
How to develop effective questions
How to interview for attitudes and non-behavioral elements
How to interview for Time Span
Assignment – Create a battery of interview questions for the specific role description

Week Five
Publish and critique battery of interview questions

Week Six
Organizing the interview process
Taking Notes during the process
Telephone Screening
Conducting the telephone interview
Conducting the face-to-face interview
Working with an interview team
Compiling the interview data into a Decision Matrix
Background Checks, Reference Checks
Behavioral Assessments
Drug Testing
Assignment – Conduct a face-to-face interview

Week Seven
Publish and critique results of interview process

Week Eight
Using Profile Assessments

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Pre-registration is now open for this program. No payment is due at this time.

Motivation Issues and Management Issues

Wes was turning inward, thinking about his role. “I never really thought about the people system that I’m responsible for. I always thought of recruiting as a necessary evil. We never plan for it. Conducting interviews is always inconvenient. I fill a position as quick as I can, so I can get back to my real work as a manager.”

“And what real work is that?” I asked.

“You know, motivation issues, management issues,” Wes replied.

“Did you ever think that if you focused more on the selection side in your recruiting process, that your issues related to motivation and management might disappear?”
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Next week, we will begin registration for our new online program, Hiring Talent. This interactive program is eight weeks in length and is designed for Hiring Managers, Managers Once Removed and Human Resource Managers. More details next week. -TF

Calibrating the Roles

From the Ask Tom Mailbag:

Question:
Can you describe the difference between a Stratum II Supervisor and a Stratum III Manager related to their roles and accountabilities?

Response:
Every company and every business model is different, so there will be small differences when you look inside your own company. But let’s look at some generalizations which you can adapt to your specific situation.

Quite often, I use a manufacturing model as an illustration, because most people can identify with these descriptions.

Stratum I – Production, using equipment, tools and machines. The direct output in this Stratum is typically what your customer experiences as your product or service.

Stratum II – Makes sure production gets done. This role is highly engaged in coordinating all of the elements required for production. This includes the scheduling of Production personnel, materials required and machine time (equipment availability or other resource allocation). This role begins by translating customer demand or work orders into specific output targets for production, managing the pace of that production and counting the direct output to make sure production gets done.

Stratum II is also typically responsible for meeting the quality specification in the production process. This may include internal inspection, making measurements to confirm the product or service meets the standard specified by the customer. Where tolerances are critical, additional quality inspections may be performed by an external team, but the resolution for any discrepancy will likely include the participation of the Stratum II Supervisor.

Finally, Stratum II is also responsible for the maintenance of all internal systems, including preventive maintenance on machines, care and storage of tools, inventory and handling of raw materials and finished goods. The most important internal system is often the people system. It is the role of Stratum II to maintain productive relationships with each team member to promote communication about production problems, quality issues, pacing issues and to gather data about the efficiency of the production system.

Stratum III – Creates the system. It is the role of Stratum III to map out the production work flow, to analyze the sequence of steps, to monitor the effectiveness of the systems, and most importantly to change the system design to promote efficiency, profitability. This role includes the replacement of capital equipment through life cycles, managing budgets related to production, introduction of new technology and training programs.

The success of the role at Stratum III requires close collaboration with the Stratum II supervisor, to gather data (counting output, counting discrepancies etc) related to the current production system, and to implement changes to the system going forward. Stratum II is often the valuable conduit to collect input from the production team related to the workability of specific processes and sequences.

A critical role of the Stratum III manager is in the hiring process. Stratum III is responsible for creating the specific roles in the production team, evaluating the necessity and requirements of those roles. In the hiring of production personnel at Stratum I, Stratum III plays the role of the Manager Once Removed (MOR). This role promotes rich conversations with the Stratum II Supervisor (the Hiring Manager) related to the hiring strategy, protocol and selection.

This short description can be adapted to other business models, using Time Span to calibrate the roles. In some business models, production may occur as a result of teams playing Stratum II, III or IV roles. This will require an adjustment of those roles required to make sure production gets done and roles required to create the systems in which people work.

Before You Start Meddling

This conversation was prompted by Wednesday’s post on Where to Start?

“Before you start meddling with the people around you, your team members, your colleagues, you have to figure out your role,” I nodded. “In the midst of your organization, what is your role?”

“I guess I am the designer of the system,” Ruben floated the trial balloon.

“You guess?” I asked.

“I am the designer of the system!”

“And what are your accountabilities, as the designer of the system?”

“As the designer of the system, it is my accountability to make sure that the output of our work is consistent. That our quality meets the standard that we set, every time,” Ruben explained, gaining more confidence.

“And what is the value to the organization, to create that consistency?”