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About Tom Foster

Tom Foster spends most of his time talking with managers and business owners. The conversations are about business lives and personal lives, goals, objectives and measuring performance. In short, transforming groups of people into teams working together. Sometimes we make great strides understanding this management stuff, other times it’s measured in very short inches. But in all of this conversation, there are things that we learn. This blog is that part of the conversation I can share. Often, the names are changed to protect the guilty, but this is real life inside of real companies.

Not an Isolated Incident

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
What do you do when you have a team member with an over-inflated ego. This person does NOT have the capability to work at a higher level. Yet, because they have been here a long time, they think they should be given a promotion and the compensation that comes with it. They are already overpaid in their current role.

Response:
This is where titles and compensation get all mixed up with egos and status. The one thing that gets left out in the cold is the WORK. In most cases, I could care less about the title in the role, I care more about the WORK.

Whenever I am approached about promotions, raises, change of title, my first response is, “Fine, let’s talk about the WORK.”

What you describe is not an isolated incident, but a systemic problem where your organization has had no calibration to determine the level of work (capability) required in its roles. Compensation gets out of hand, people receive raises and title changes based on time served (like we are running a prison).

So, the answer to your question is not a specific technique to resolve this specific situation with this specific person. This is a systemic solution which requires the organization to continually define the WORK, the capability required to complete the work, and to assess the effectiveness of the people we have in those roles, doing the WORK.

This assessment, the Personal Effectiveness Appraisal, continually calibrates, over time where the person is, in relationship to the WORK. This is a simple assessment, a required managerial leadership practice. It asks these questions.

  1. Is this person working satisfactorily in the role?
  2. In that role, is the person working as effectively as someone in the top half of the role or the bottom half of the role?
  3. And in that half, is the person working as effectively as someone in the bottom, middle or top of the role?

This simple calibration, discussing the work and effectiveness, helps everyone – the team member, the manager and the manager once removed (MOR) to have helpful discussions about appropriate task assignments where team members are working at (at least near) their maximum capability.

When used over time, with all roles, the organization creates higher levels of trust by engaging in productive conversations about the work (in roles) and effectiveness. This prevents a lot of nonsense where team members have inappropriate (miscalibrated) understandings of their own capability related to task assignments.

Ambiguity and Muddy Water

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
After reading yesterday’s post, I have a question for you on using someone other than the MOR (Manager Once Removed) for the control of the hiring process.

What are your thoughts on using a truly professional “Human Development” person (much more than an H-R admin) for leading the whole process of determining the economic value of the open role, required capability, the relevant behavioral questions and screening candidates versus the agreed upon hiring criteria?

Several companies are now using a very high level (“C” level) and qualified person in this role. It seems better positioned to achieve the company’s culture alignment, finding and growing both new or existing persons to their full potentials.

Response:
Most HR roles suffer from the same dilemma I talked about in my last post. The biggest mistake most companies make is underestimating the Time Span capability required for success in the role. And I don’t think they are trying to be cheap in their approach. I truly believe they misjudge the value of the HR role.

Your question was carefully worded to include “C” level (Stratum IV capability). This person can bring a lot to the table in terms of resources, focused time and expertise.

Here is the problem. An internal HR professional is rarely in a position of accountability for the output of the team. One of the primary elements I hold a manager accountable for, is the composition of their team. Understanding the cascading goals which flow from one Stratum to the next, it is the Manager Once Removed who will have in line accountability for the output of the Hiring Manager (one Stratum below) and the output of the team (two Strata below).

The issues, related to accountability, lead us to role of the Manager Once Removed and the Hiring Manager as the drivers of this process. Internal HR professionals can be valid (individual) contributors, yet, an attempt to relieve the MOR and the Hiring Manager from culpability, muddies the water and creates ambiguity. Ambiguity kills accountability.

Biggest Mistake in Hiring

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
Can you clarify the role of the Manager Once Removed (MOR) in the hiring process. You describe that the MOR creates the candidate pool, the slate for the Hiring Manager to select from. Sounds a little dictatorial.

Response:
It may sound that way, but in practical terms, it is high touch with rich discussion.

First, there should be initial agreement that an open role actually exists. The Hiring Manager and the MOR should be in tight communication about the necessity of that role, its budget impact, its operational impact on team productivity and capacity. If there is agreement, they move to the next step.

Any open position is an opportunity to re-think that role. What is the work in that role, what will be the task assignments (what, by when)? Based on the task assignments, what is the Time Span capability required in the role? What skills are required?

Both the Hiring Manager and the MOR create the role description, establishing decision criteria and interview questions. Again, these are high touch discussions, both have a vested interest in a positive hire.

Yes, the MOR will drive this process. This may include resume screens and phone screens to make sure the talent pool contains qualified candidates and that unqualified candidates don’t make it to the Final Four.

The biggest mistake most companies make in the hiring process, is underestimating the Time Span required for success in the role. The participation of the MOR is to make sure we don’t make that mistake.

First Moves

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:
I was in your Time Span workshop last week. Fascinating. Where do we start? What are the first moves that we make?

Response:
The first moves are always with yourself. Elliott’s intention was that Requisite Organization be a comprehensive organization-wide managerial system. And the first moves are always with yourself.

Organize Around the Work
Define the roles that are necessary. The first missteps an organization makes, is to focus on the capability of their people. Before you examine that capability, you must know what capability is necessary in the roles. It’s like MBWA. Before you do all that walking around, it would be a good idea to know what you are looking for.

Defining roles is fundamental managerial work that most would like to skip, and that is where it starts. What is the work that is necessary?

Only after you have defined the market need and determined a viable product or service, where there is enough value that the customer is willing to pay for, that we can profitably produce, with enough volume to create an organization, we can begin.

Organize Around the Work
What is the work that is necessary? What is the direct output of our production teams that creates the product or service that our customer experiences?

Organize Around the Work
With our production teams, how do we maintain the pace of that production to meet market requirements (sales orders)? What are the roles necessary to coordinate all the materials, machinery, equipment and people at the right time, to create our product or service? How do we maintain the quality standards demanded (necessary) by the market? How do we count what we produced, overproduced, underproduced to make sure production got done?

Organize Around the Work
As your volume builds, things begin to happen, problems crop up. Over and over. Some of the new work has less to do with production and more to do with operations, operational work. With some analysis, we begin to systematize the work with an eye to operational efficiencies and profitability. What analytic work is necessary? What systems need to be constructed and monitored? How do our systems prevent problems? How do we change our systems to accommodate new problems?

This is where you start, by looking at the roles in the organization. Organize around the work.

A Consultant Gets to Walk Away

From the Ask Tom mailbag:

Question:

Can a third party, like a consultant, operate in the capacity of the MOR?

Response:

The Manager Once Removed (MOR) is a specific role inside the organization. On the surface, it may appear plausible that someone from the outside could step in and move things along, but, there is a missing critical element.

We may give an outside person, like a consultant, authority to act in some capacity, but they are still outside the organization and being on the outside relieves them from accountability. At the end of the day, they get to walk away.

Examples abound in government. There are lots of people who would like to have “oversight” on a given issue, jump in with both feet, throw some people under the bus, act all high and mighty, spout their obtuse opinion. But at the end of the day, they get to walk away with no accountability. Doesn’t it make sense that if you have the authority to call the shots, that I should hold you accountable for the moves you make?

The MOR must have both authority (oversight) and accountability. It is that accountability that makes the oversight effective.

Whose Goal Is It?

“Don’t you think you are being a little hard on me?” Torrey floated.

“Not at all. I am just heading off the excuses I expect to hear when your team doesn’t meet your goal,” I replied.

“My goal. But it’s not really my goal,” Torrey protested. “It’s the team’s goal.”

“No, the project goal is your goal. It is you, the Manager, that I hold accountable for the project goal. Regarding your team, I only expect them to do their best.”

“But, but,” Torrey sputtered.

“But, what? You signed off on the project budget, based on the resources and the schedule. You signed off on the Goal, the What by When. I will judge your effectiveness, to manage the project resources and the schedule along the Time Span of this project.”

Even If a Machine Breaks Down

Torrey took a long breath. “So, I am responsible for the output of my team members?”

“That is what I will hold you accountable for,” I replied.

“Even if they get sick, or a machine breaks down, or materials are late,” Torrey was looking for a way out.

I nodded my head. “Torrey, the reason we selected you for this project, is that you have been successful on other projects, six months in length. I expect you to manage the uncertainty of events that could happen and will happen during a project of this Time Span. I expect you to make contingency plans, schedule redundancy where it’s appropriate, inspect for quality, anticipate schedule changes, vacations and prevent accidents. I don’t expect you to make excuses. I expect you to anticipate, modify, readjust and meet the deadline.”

Redefined Role of the Manager

Sitting in an airplane, with daylight fading behind the tail of the aircraft, watching the city candles flicker in the valley below. Three days working with groups in San Diego, got to spend time with Ozzie Gontang who always makes me think.

As this recovery struggles along, I find myself working, more and more, with new managers and I am struck by the remarkable role they play in the fabric of our organizations.

“You have just completely redefined the role of the manager,” came the observation from the other side of the room.

I don’t think it was me. I think it was somewhere between Elliott Jaques, Wilfred Bion, Jerry Harvey and Lee Thayer.

“You are not a manager so people can report to you. Your role, as a manger, is to bring value to the problem solving and decision making of the members of your team. And you, as a manager, are responsible for the output of your team.”

What Do You See?

“I see, I mean, I am having a problem with one of my new supervisors, and I need to know if he is up to the challenge. If you could interview him, I would appreciate your feedback,” explained Ryan.

“You started to tell me what you were seeing,” I pushed. “Then you stopped and announced that you had a problem, a problem you think I can fix for you.”

“If you can’t fix it, can you, at least, tell me what to do, how to handle him?” Ryan shifted quickly.

“Let’s go back to what you see. You think you need to make a move with this new supervisor, and you haven’t told me what you see. If you can describe to me what you see, we can likely make some headway.”

I could see Ryan’s impatience. He wanted a quick fix, something he could nail and move on. And yet, I could see his breathing slow down. He knew there was no magic pixie dust. “Okay, what do I see? I see a project on his plate. This is not a huge project, but it will take some planning to make sure everything falls into place.”

“And what do you see, in your new manager?” I pressed.

“I see some confusion, disorganization. I see the clock ticking on this project, and he hasn’t taken the first step. This will be a test in his new role and I am afraid the wheels on the project might get a little wobbly.”

“And what are the things that could make the wheels get wobbly?”

“It’s not that difficult,” Ryan thought out loud. “First, he has to make a list of the milestones, then a list of the people, materials and equipment for each of the milestones.”

“I know you think you have a problem with this new supervisor, and as you describe what you see, what moves do YOU need to make, as his manager?”

See Things With New Eyes

I am in San Diego, working with a group on the Time Span research of Elliott Jaques.

“So, what do we do next? How do we implement this stuff?” came the question at a break.

“Calm down,” I replied. “For starters, don’t do anything.”

This was definitely NOT the anticipated response. I smiled. “Look, during the past three hours, I have described a new way of looking at your organization, a new way of looking at work, how roles are created, how accountabilities are designed into those roles. So, stop. Don’t do anything.

“Sit, and watch. Observe. See things with new eyes. Describe what you see, first to yourself, then to someone else. That is the first step.

“So, tell me, with your new eyes, what do you see in your organization? What is going on?”